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Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille
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Posted - 2017.03.18 20:29:51 -
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Glad to hear the changes not include the "time decaying" PLEX. Rumors had CCP considering PLEX change where after 30 days or so PLEX would go from today's full value PLEX into a lump tagged as worth 999/1000 (or 499/500 I guess) of these new milli-PLEX and then decay further at accelerated rates.
That would ensure that PLEX were used ASAP and did not remain on market just as hard currency. But it would really suck for people who went offline with unused PLEX or alliances big enough that they could lose track of where all their PLEX were stashed and how old those PLEX were.
I guess if CCP ever did that a purchase or use by time-date stamp on the PLEX would help if you looked at an individual PLEX. But I want to get so rich in game that examining each PLEX I owned became tedious and consumed hours of game time.  |
Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.18 21:01:01 -
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marly cortez wrote:beakerax wrote:1000 seems easier to understand than 500GǪ Dunno, I never in my life mistook the number '1' for anything other than '1'. As to this Plex issue, having never had the need for plex since multi boxing got kicked into touch, the whole thing seems to put it politely, a non-issue. However, the darker picture here is this advertisement, seems the selling reptiles have slithered in by the back door to me battering your face with products no one would ever consider buying in the first place always missing the real point here, that if it really was any good people would already know all about it and would not require this intrusive prompting.
He just wants discussion friendly currency. Instead of talking purchasing 500 PLEX for same rate as 1 PLEX today -- he wants to keep purchasing a PLEX and talk breaking it into 1000 milli-PLEX. Or following EU suggested currency deci-PLEX (1/10th PLEX), centi-PLEX (1/100th) and milli-PLEX.
I favor the plan that keeps EVE doors open to play. CCP has to pay bills to do that.
TBH the CCP plan makes a LOT more sense at least from a marketing standpoint. I can almost guarantee that CCP will NOT continue selling NewPLEX in 500 lot units such that users can compare to old PLEX prices without thinking. CCP may need to ease players into new game time costs to pay CCPs own bills.
Old PLEX is 720 hours of game play for 14.95 without any discounts or specials.The RL CCP base price (not volume discounted) price of PLEX would equate to 0.03 USD per NewPLEX.
But I expect CCP to sell in all sorts of lot sizes (100, 250, 333, 750, 1000, 5000, etc) both for user flexibility and to simply erase the old cost of game time from user minds.
The simplest round off of NewPLEX to game time is 1 hour game time. It could also go to 2 hours if CCP wants to gamble that skins and other EVE Store stuff will skyrocket. I suspect that game is too big. TBH that sort of gambling favors the more straightforward milli-PLEX.
So I suspect OMEGA game time costs will be raised behind a NewPLEX change smoke screen. But the results will still favor most players if you can buy time a few NewPLEX at a time. Turn on alts full skill for few hours at a time.etc Decide to pay for time to train up skills versus buying injectors etc. |
Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.18 21:17:16 -
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I guess the big question is
will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ? 
If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill.
Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors.
Sort of win-win for CCP and players. The ultimate flexibility. Players can more quickly fly Titan or whatever via injectors without dedicating their RL...but also save some money afterwards by goign OMEGA only on weekends. (LOL - Sounds odd to spend hundreds RL to jump into capital ship immediately then squeeze pennies as weekend warrior. But people on budgets do stuff like that with hobbies all the time when they expect years of involvement.)
And skins and other stuff may well sell better when its only exchanging a few hours of game play -- rather than committing to exchanging a whole OldPLEX (30 days of gameplayer) which can then really be spent only on more (often far less wanted) store stuff. |
Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.19 00:48:20 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:I guess the big question is will CCP allow purchasing OMEGA time in 1 NewPLEX increments. ? If so a lot of specialized alts can be left ALPHA except for the exact time that you need them at full OMEGA skill. Yet somebody will still need OMEGA to add skill points into EVE either by direct toon traiing time or as injectors. No. 30 days chunks only. Quote:Q: With smaller PLEX, will I be able to buy less than 30 days of Omega time?
A: We currently we have no plans regarding smaller game time packages.
Too bad. Should be trivial to code. Instead of incrementing expiration at 30 days from now - increment by 1 or 2 hours for each NewPLEX spent for game time. Pretty sure that transition to or from OMEGA status in mid-session already works smoothy, as does safe storage of newly added PLEX against server crash. At least I hope it does.
Although the net income change would be hard to predict. I would think training alone would keep most advanced players subscribing or PLEXing for continuous time regardless of PLEX or time increments.
It is however almost certain that many more ALPHA players would at least buy a few NewPLEX with ISK just to try out equipment within easy reach. Lots of ALPHA players can afford to buy say 5 NewPLEX with ISK
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Arthure Pentedragoon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2017.03.19 01:28:55 -
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Sgt Ocker wrote:Arthure Pentedragoon wrote:marly cortez wrote:beakerax wrote:1000 seems easier to understand than 500GǪ Dunno, I never in my life mistook the number '1' for anything other than '1'. As to this Plex issue, having never had the need for plex since multi boxing got kicked into touch, the whole thing seems to put it politely, a non-issue. However, the darker picture here is this advertisement, seems the selling reptiles have slithered in by the back door to me battering your face with products no one would ever consider buying in the first place always missing the real point here, that if it really was any good people would already know all about it and would not require this intrusive prompting. Old PLEX is 720 hours of game play for 14.95 without any discounts or specials.The RL CCP base price (not volume discounted) price of PLEX would equate to 0.03 USD per NewPLEX. But I expect CCP to sell in all sorts of lot sizes (100, 250, 333, 750, 1000, 5000, etc) both for user flexibility and to simply erase the old cost of game time from user minds. Where do you buy a Plex for $14.95? 1 months game time via "Add game time" is $14.95 1 Plex is $19.95 via the Plex store.
I had a brain gas explosion.
OK 0.04 USD per NewPLEX -- if price for 30 days via PLEXing does not change.
Most common(?) volume discount of 6 OldPLEX lot from CCP is still $17.50 USD
Used to be some big resellers that occasionally gave additional store discounts somehow. IDK if that still happens. Probably have to spend a lot RL money at that store if it does.
Yup PLEX is more expensive than subscription if paying directly with RL money. Sort of my point. Game Time is simply the bullion backing the lowest end value of a PLEX. But game time/multiple toon training time are also still the main reasons PLEX disappear from market.
Do not see a reason for CCP to change game subscription RL cost as soon or as much - if ever. Subscription price is not on market for speculation due to alternate uses or in-game ISK means of purchase. Flipping subscriptions to periodic delivery of a PLEX instead of just game time would likely blow up EVE without equalizing RL costs. Not impossible for CCP to do. But I will never expect it because too many people will eject if the constant $14.95/month changes much.
All leading back to why CCP might play with RL cost of PLEX raising it a small reasonable amount.
 Assumption: Most people PLEXing for EVE game time are very successful in game, not paying RL money to play and thus unlikely to quit if RL PLEX costs rise a bit.
Hopefully CCP calculates just right not to stress game play or players but enough to cover their bills with smaller paying player base. Oh and to get CCP stores to be worth all the artwork etc invested.
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